Comments on: Ceramic Powder in Paint Slashes Energy Costs?

By: RM

RM — Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:47:09 +0000

We used a product from T.C. ceramics on our bus conversion. It is amazing the difference it makes. They sent us a sample to do a test on. We used a piece of the dry product, put it in a teflon pan on the stove burner. Turned the elec. burner on med heat. Then we put an ice cube on top of the sample. The pan got blazing hot, but the sample remained cool and the ice cube did not melt. We put some on the top of our bus, then on a very hot day, we went out to ck it. Where to coating was, the temp of the inside metal was 101, the metal that didnt have the coating was 130 degrees, and to hot to touch. So, that proved it to me. The product from them is a coating, not a paint. It is in white or black, and can have color added also. We also saw where someone had put it on the muffler of a generator. It was cool to touch. We put it on the bus, and anywhere heat may generate. It does not have an r value, it keeps the heat from entering. Amazing product. Good luck!

By: Greg

Greg — Sun, 12 Sep 2010 15:20:13 +0000

Results of 1300 SQ experiment in 1 White gloss paint, 2. in aluminum color paint and 3. in dark brown paint on a 1300 sq foot roof , ( flat roof).

The area which was painted white with the additive has a massive temperature reduction.
the area painted with aluminum paint showed some reduction
the area painted with dark brown paint was the same temperature as the uncoated area.

By: Cindy

Cindy — Sun, 12 Sep 2010 07:35:20 +0000

Let’s make some clerification. Insuladd was created by NASA. I hv personally used several of these products, and two of them worked. What I hv found is applying multiple layers of products together gave me a much better result. However using the products as directed worked just not as well. You can use the powered product in your primer& paint over it . This will not change the benefits . It also keeps your paint color and sheen from changing. Not having the ceramics in the paint gives the paint a smoother finish .
I hv mixed the insuladd product in stucco before applying , it’s a 4:1 ratio .
So it 4 lbs of stucco to 1 lb of product . I’ve even done 4:11/2. The product does lighten the stucco ever so slightly as it does the paint. It however had no effect on texture. The interior of the house was primed with product added , then painted . The interior of the attick space was primed with the hy- tech #85. The speck home with the products was
cooler all around and kept a comfortable temp throughout the hot days . The speck home without was definitly warmer. The
homes were speck homes I built in sunny California where the temp reach over 100 easily. What I also noticed was in the evening the side pf the house was still comfortable , not effected by exterior.
The houses were presold and the painting contractor offered them to the new home owners .
I use both these products in different combinations to accommodate the concerns of my clients . It doesn’t matter if I’m building a 1200sqft or an 8,000sqft house .
Hope this gives you some insight , and helps.

By: Chris F

Chris F — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:06:47 +0000

I’ve used several products from different manufacturers in the course of building custom homes. Had zero to poor results with Insuladd, HeatShield, and a few others. When I called for support, the two mentioned were either not real informed on their product or flat out rude.
Tried the Hy-Tech additive and had a measurable difference in the room I used it in. Painted the outside of the whole house next, and saved 84 dollars on the next electric cooling bill. Can’t paint my roof (homeowners assoc) but used the radiant barrier coating. Dropped my attic temps by 40 degrees!!
Spent a lot of time researching and trying different things, but I found what works well.

By: Fredric Trish

Fredric Trish — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 20:35:12 +0000

I think this write up was probably a good kick off to a potential series of posts about this topic. So many people act like they know what they are preaching about when it comes to this area and really, nearly no one actually get it. You seem to understand it though, so I think you should run with it. Thanks!

By: elliott

elliott — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:11:17 +0000

Note: We didnt go grab a Behr paint and add ceramic beads to it, be prepared to dish out close to $100/gal for less than 100 sq/ft coverage.

The paint listed above was manufactured and designed for that type of application.

I’d caution against anything otherwise.

By: elliott

elliott — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:04:34 +0000

Ceramic paint is for heat shielding applications, it absorbs heat very well. I work for an industrial coatings company, we’ve applied it to boilers and tanks.

As a specific example we put it on the exterior of a tank used to melt large amounts of chocolate for a chocolate manufacture, the chocolate inside would be heated causing the exterior of the tanks to be dangerous to touch. We sprayed a 1/4″ thick layer of ceramic paint. Which absorbed the heat from the tank to make the tank safe to touch while in operation.

Its like a latex paint but with a lot more body, can be put on with trowel or spray gun, not that fun to work with since it can be tricky, usually does not leave a good finish (bumpy, un-even due to applying such a thick coat). But it’s meant to be an insulation not a finish product. A neat product but not sure how much a thin layer (1-2 mils) of it will do on a wall.

It was explained to me that if you put a 1/4″ layer of the paint to a can with water than boiled the water you could pick up the cup easily.

By: Greg

Greg — Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:48:24 +0000

Hi all, I am glad I found this forum again as I want to be able to report my results as I have finally decided to do my own experiment. I put the material into pure white paint and painted a portion of the roof and it seemed to have an effect. However, because most white surfaces seem cool to the touch even after being in the sun all day I still question whether it was the white paint alone that had the effect so I want to know if it realy works by using a gray paint that will absorb heat from the sun. I have applied the additive from HY Tech into some Grey paint and painted two doors. According to the information it should not matter the color as it is forming a ‘vacuum’ barrier. I applied the paint in the metal primer gray to metal doors. I should know this after noon after the sun hits the doors if the energy is radiating through… I sanded with 80 grit orbital, scrubbed with degreaser, rinsed with clean water, spot primed the rust with fish oil primer, and then applied two coats of the product into the high quality Rustolium metal primer on all sides of the two doors ( Now that I think of it I did not do the very bottom edge nor the top edge, my mistake). I am going to know if it works or whether it is only white paint that has the value of reflecting energy back to source.

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By: Mike Michaels Platinum CS

Mike Michaels Platinum CS — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:44:53 +0000

Link for info on why ceramic paints work. http://www.hytechsales.com/heat_transfer.html